The “Pointer Outer” And Me

If any of you are still hanging with me, you might have wondered what the heck I’m doing with my life. In all fairness, I should have warned you this was coming.

The thing is, I didn’t exactly know what “this” was.

As many of you realize, if you read the blogs of authors and aspiring authors—-and certainly if you are one yourself!—-the road to getting a book published is long and fraught with a bunch of stuff. You read that right: stuff.

My agent and I decided to send my book out to an indy editor before shopping it around to publishers. You may not know this, but an editor doesn’t exactly fix your book herself. She’s not a BOOK FIXER, darn it. She’s a BOOK POINTER OUTER. And she is VERY good at pointing out!

What the indy editor did for me is not unlike what I might expect if the book is purchased and assigned to a publisher’s editor. So I believe I am correct to imagine that in the very best case scenario, I will be repeating this process with another editor down the road.

I’ll just go ahead and say it: I LOVE my Book Pointer Outer. I have met her in person at the American Christian Fiction Writers Conference that I attend every September. But when she finished her edits, she sent me back a TWENTY-TWO page, single-spaced letter to explain the notes that would be scattered throughout the manuscript when I finally had the guts to turn on edit mode and look at them.

Twenty-two pages!!! Now, all is not lost. At LEAST 1/3 of a page brimmed with compliments! No one said this industry was for sissies.

How many comments did she leave in the actual 350 page manuscript, you might ask? A few. LIke approximately 1500. Of those, SEVERAL (and by several I mean, literally, three) pointed to something I’d written and said “LOL” or in one particularly gratifying case, “LOLOLOLOL.”

The other 1497 pointed to, let’s just say, problems. Not terrible problems, for the most part. But stuff that must be addressed. By me.

For, you see, I am the Author! She is the Pointer Outer. Darn. Some days, I think I would make a dandy Pointer Outer. Ha.

I am buried in edits, as writers say. I have a self-imposed deadline of September 1. I really want my agent to be able to shop my book at ACFW on Sept 18. I really, really do.

If you would like to pray for me, I would humbly accept the gift of your prayers. If you would like to leave me a comment to let me know you’re still here even though I’ve been a very, very bad blogger, I would truly love to hear from you.

I’ll be back! I miss all of you! Thanks for hanging with me.

Posted by Katy on 07/28/08 at 11:38 AM

Fallible Comments...

I'm glad it is such a good reason to be missing! I do wonder how there could only be three LOL's.
I've put your prayer request on my Sticky Note.
Posted by Elaine on 07/28/08 at 01:40 PM
Hi, Elaine--There might be a few more. I'm only halfway through the edits. But here's the thing: it's not an editor's job to make me feel good. It's her job to help me get the book publishable.

They only make the number of great comments that it takes to keep the author from committing suicide! :)
Posted by Katy on 07/28/08 at 01:44 PM
Katy,
What a great reason to be missing. I was worrying about much worse scenerios or wondering if you went off to Ireland without letting me know!! Stick with it. We are still around, patiently waiting while you and BJ are in edit mode!! Love ya and praying for you!! Sandi
Posted by Sandi Thompson on 07/28/08 at 02:42 PM
I'm so PROUD of you! Edit away, sister. My prayers are with you.
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Glad that you found an editor who works to hone your writing to its sharpest. And glad that you're back on Fallible. T'will be praying for you. Blessings.
Posted by Gracie on 07/28/08 at 06:38 PM
I'm rooting for you. Here's a way to think about your "pointer outer": an editor is like a midwife, who wants to bring the healthiest baby into the world. :)
Posted by Terri on 07/28/08 at 11:17 PM
although i miss the wit and wisdom of your posts, i look forward to reading your published book even more, so edit away!
Posted by joshua on 07/29/08 at 02:32 AM
Hi Katy, I don't comment on here much--but I do read your posts quite often. I'm glad you are 'absent' for a great reason! I hope your edits are going well and your book will soon be on it's way to getting published!
Posted by Mary on 07/30/08 at 10:35 PM
I am so excited for you I can hardly stand it! I know, I know, you're in the hard "editing" phase - but isn't it much better than the "wishing someone would read my manuscript" phase? I'm so proud of you, I could burst - and I will be sending up lots and lots of prayers for you.
Posted by Carrie K. on 07/31/08 at 04:09 AM
Not to echo Carrie, but as hard as editing is, it's better than silence! :)

I'm on the other end of things--I'm a freelance editor, and a little newer to the industry than you. But I've been in the place you're at. That's when I started my mantra: "One more page, one more page, just one more page..."

Take heart, and try to enjoy it! :)
Posted by Amanda on 08/01/08 at 05:03 PM
Katy, may all of the comments make sense to you, and may the final product be better for it. May you have the discipline to stick to your schedule, and may it pay off in blessings of getting picked up right away!
Posted by PattyT on 08/01/08 at 05:16 PM
Sandi--We can take a wee little break to Ireland, can't we? Maybe 3 weeks? Girl, I do miss me some Ireland....

Christa--Won't it be great when we can both say that we've got one book COMPLETELY finished---edits and all? I will love that.

Gracie--I do love this editor! I think she gets me, without allowing me to get away with less than stellar writing. A good combination.

Terri--Yes!!! An editor is not the enemy!!! Ha. I'm testy enough that I might be tempted to think so, but I KNOW she wants this to be a great book. So I cooperate! ;)

Joshua---My husband does not think it is too much of a chick book. He says even if he didn't love me, he'd like my book a lot. So I hope you do, too!

Mary--Thank you! The process is indeed a long one. It doesn't help that I'm a slow learner... :) Or at least a slow writer. I think I've learned SO much with this first novel, that my process will be much improved with the second. I hope!

Carrie K---Oh, you are so right!!! I've never DONE this stage before, so it's a bit intimidating for me, but less so every day. The happiest day for me so far was when my agent offered me representation. It happened SO SLOWLY and then, as with everything, SO VERY FAST!! This is all part and parcel of that...

Amanda---I've always said I can handle almost anything but feeling invisible. Don't need fame, but that dropping off the face of the earth feeling (after submitting to editors and agents and never hearing a thing...) is the WORST. I've had edited a couple of novels as a freelancer, and I worked the same way! Funny.

PattyT---A few comments are a bit mysterious, but I can call/email the editor for clarification as I work my way through. She's very accessible. Your comment reads like a prayer, and thank you very much....
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Personal blog of christian writer & fallible mom Katy McKenna Raymond in Kansas City, Missouri Katy is represented by Greg Johnson at WordServe Literary Read more Katy at LateBoomer.net Follow Katy on Twitter Follow Katy on Facebook 123 Recent Posts Try Becoming Brenda Starr Off Beat Scattered That’s It So I’ve Finally Signed With An Agent. Now What? The Spoon Sciatica Sweetheart A Woman’s Train of Thought Has No Caboose However much we own, we are all still living on borrowed time After all, when restaurants shrink portions, they don’t shrink prices. As with everything in life, balance is key. Slow down, you move too fast… Yeah, I know. I have issues. Search Advanced Search Syndicate Login E me at katy @ ngenius.com	The “Pointer Outer” And Me If any of you are still hanging with me, you might have wondered what the heck I’m doing with my life. In all fairness, I should have warned you this was coming. The thing is, I didn’t exactly know what “this” was. As many of you realize, if you read the blogs of authors and aspiring authors—-and certainly if you are one yourself!—-the road to getting a book published is long and fraught with a bunch of stuff. You read that right: stuff. My agent and I decided to send my book out to an indy editor before shopping it around to publishers. You may not know this, but an editor doesn’t exactly fix your book herself. She’s not a BOOK FIXER, darn it. She’s a BOOK POINTER OUTER. And she is VERY good at pointing out! What the indy editor did for me is not unlike what I might expect if the book is purchased and assigned to a publisher’s editor. So I believe I am correct to imagine that in the very best case scenario, I will be repeating this process with another editor down the road. I’ll just go ahead and say it: I LOVE my Book Pointer Outer. I have met her in person at the American Christian Fiction Writers Conference that I attend every September. But when she finished her edits, she sent me back a TWENTY-TWO page, single-spaced letter to explain the notes that would be scattered throughout the manuscript when I finally had the guts to turn on edit mode and look at them. Twenty-two pages!!! Now, all is not lost. At LEAST 1/3 of a page brimmed with compliments! No one said this industry was for sissies. How many comments did she leave in the actual 350 page manuscript, you might ask? A few. LIke approximately 1500. Of those, SEVERAL (and by several I mean, literally, three) pointed to something I’d written and said “LOL” or in one particularly gratifying case, “LOLOLOLOL.” The other 1497 pointed to, let’s just say, problems. Not terrible problems, for the most part. But stuff that must be addressed. By me. For, you see, I am the Author! She is the Pointer Outer. Darn. Some days, I think I would make a dandy Pointer Outer. Ha. I am buried in edits, as writers say. I have a self-imposed deadline of September 1. I really want my agent to be able to shop my book at ACFW on Sept 18. I really, really do. If you would like to pray for me, I would humbly accept the gift of your prayers. If you would like to leave me a comment to let me know you’re still here even though I’ve been a very, very bad blogger, I would truly love to hear from you. I’ll be back! I miss all of you! Thanks for hanging with me. Posted by Katy on 07/28/08 at 11:38 AM Fallible Comments... I'm glad it is such a good reason to be missing! I do wonder how there could only be three LOL's. I've put your prayer request on my Sticky Note. Posted by Elaine on 07/28/08 at 01:40 PM Hi, Elaine--There might be a few more. I'm only halfway through the edits. But here's the thing: it's not an editor's job to make me feel good. It's her job to help me get the book publishable. 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